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Thanksgiving Montag streitete sich der 15-jaehrige Brandon Crisp aus Shanty Bay bei Barrie, Ontario mal wieder mit seinen Eltern um die XBox. Brandon ist suechtig nach dem Online-Spiel Call of Duty, verbringt zu viel Zeit vor dem Spiel, seine Eltern nehmen ihm die Konsole immer wieder weg. Das gleiche an Thanksgiving, Brandon weiss wo die Konsole versteckt ist, holt sie raus um zu spielen, die Eltern bemerken es und nehmen sie wieder weg, mit den Worten "for good".... Brandon verlaesst das Haus und ruft er komme nicht wieder.........

1 Tag spaeter informieren die Eltern die Polkizei
2 Tage spaeter sucht die Polizei weitraeumig die Gegend ab
4 Tage spaeter die erste Belohnung von 5000 Dollar fuer Hinweise
6 Tage spaeter formen sich Gruppen von freiwilligen die die Gegend absuchen
7 Tage spaeter findet man sein Fahrrad an einem Trail, keine weitere Spur von ihm
8 Tage spaeter wird die Belohnung auf 10000 Dollar erhoeht
11 Tage spaeter erhoeht Microsoft (!) die Belohnung fuer Hinweise auf 50.000 Dollar
In den darauffolgenden Tagen rufen lokale Fernsehsender die Bevoelkerung auf zu suchen, Anwohner organisieren Suchtrupp, meine Frau und ich sind auch dabei
Ueberall haengen Suchplakate, ueber den Fall wird ueberall in der Provinz berichtet.
Mahnwachen werden organisiert, in der ganzen Region ist anspannung zu spueren.
Letzte Woche berichtet McLeans ueber Brandons verschwinden, Americas Most Wanted strahlt den Fall aus um Hinweise zu kriegen.

Heute haben ihn Jaeger unweit seiner Schule in einem Zelt im Wald gefunden, wann und wie er genau starb ist noch nicht bekannt. Die Region ist geschockt, wir trauern um einen unbekannten Jungen..........

Jan

Krass......mein Beileid an alle die ihn kannten.

Warum gibt Microsoft 25K? Schlechtes Gewissen / PR?

Das kann ja nicht nur das Spiel gewesen sein. Wenn doch - da hab ich ein Problem mit das zu verstehen. Da muss sonst was mit den Eltern gewesen sein. Ansonsten bin ich froh, dass die ganze Spielerei spurlos an mir vorbei gegangen ist.

Fuer Dich Jan, tut's mir Leid, dass Du das auch noch in der Pampa mitmachen musstest. Da geht man nach Kanada um das alles nicht mehr sehen zu muessen und dann das...

Herzlicher Gruss, Dusko

Naja, wir mussten nicht, irgendwie wollten wir da mithelfen. Du schaust morgens TV und siehst den Beitrag, und das sie freiwillige brauchen um nach dem Jungen zu suchen, und als Vater eines Sohnes denkst Du da nicht lange nach.

Die ganze Geschichte ist aussergewoehnlich. Microsoft hatte wohl in der Tat ein schlechtes Gewissen. Aber viele Details sind eigenartig, da rennt er von zu Hause weg, dann findet man sein Fahrrad auf einem trail (warum laesst er das da einfach zurueck?), dann findet man ihn spaeter in einem Zelt mit einem Haufen Junkfood. Woher hat er das Zelt (er selber hat keines besessen), und das Junkfood hat er selber nicht besorgt (es gibt nur 2 Convenience stores in der Gegend, beide Ladenbesitzer kennen ihn), also hat ihm jemand geholfen. Und nun ist er tot? Wie soll diese Gecshichte denn funktionieren?

Wir werden wohl in den naechsten Tagen mehr erfahren.

Jan

Ein plumpes Sexualverbrechen? Das Fahrrad auf dem Trail zuruecklassen deutet auf eine Mitfahrgelegenheit in einem Auto mit.
Weisst Du, wie er ums Leben gekommen ist? Erdrosselt/Erstickt?

Halt uns auf dem laufenden,
Duesentrieb

Was neues?

hallo

die story heute in the star
vorher von wiki:
Hypothermia is a condition in which an organism's temperature drops below that required for normal metabolism and bodily functions. In warm-blooded animals, ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothermia

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Hypothermia suspected in Brandon Crisp's deat

Nov 07, 2008 04:30 AM

Robyn Doolittle
Staff Reporter


The body was resting in reeds nearly as tall as the deer hunters who found it.

The hunter who stumbled upon the grim find picked up his walkie-talkie and radioed the others who were scattered around the bush.

"I found something," he said in a shaky voice. "It's a boy, 15, maybe 14. His shoes are on. There's a backpack."

They immediately knew who it was – Brandon Crisp.

Brandon's fully clothed body appeared so neat, his clothing so unsullied, the hunters thought that, although he'd clearly been there a while, he couldn't possibly have been out there for three weeks, the time he'd been missing since running away from his Barrie home Thanksgiving Monday.

He looked to be at peace – something that would be consistent with hypothermia, which some investigators are quietly speculating could well have been the cause of death.

A post-mortem is scheduled for today.

Brandon was last seen about three kilometres southwest of where the group, local men who had set out around 9:30 a.m, was hunting deer.

"We'd only been out there about 20 minutes," said one of the men.

They were hunting in a wooded area between Oro-Medonte line 4 and 5, about a kilometre north of the Oro trail. The woods are bordered by cornfields and tall, brown grass, the perfect hiding place for deer. And Brandon's body.

"You could have missed it even from five feet away," the hunter said. "It's heartbreaking. It shouldn't have ended this way," he said, his eyes filling with tears.

The hunters called OPP from one of the men's nearby homes. Police arrived around 10:30 a.m. and the homeowner drove the detectives to the site on his ATV.

Police have said they aren't ruling out anything, but based on preliminary evidence they aren't expecting this to be homicide. Sources familiar with the case said a leading theory is that the boy became disoriented and died of hypothermia, an abnormally low body temperature.

Brandon ran away after his parents took away his Xbox. Angelika and Steve Crisp later explained the Grade 10 student had become addicted to a popular online game, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.

Infuriated, the teen threatened to leave. Sure the boy was bluffing, Steve helped Brandon pack his bag.

"I really thought he would be home later that day with his tail between his legs," the distraught father told the Star two weeks ago.


The 15-year-old was last seen on a biking trail between Barrie and Orillia, between Oro-Medonte Line 2 and 3. Hundreds of local volunteers and police scoured the region, combing through acres of brush between Line 1 and Line 10. But, said Sgt. Dave Goodbrand, the focus was always on the area near the trail.

Civilian-led search teams had canvassed the area where the body was found, but the ground is marsh-like and the terrain uneven.

Marguerite Watson had been out searching too, but she and her husband, Roy, are elderly and could only watch the roads. It was at the very back of her property, past the cornfield, that Brandon was found. OPP set up a command post at the farm.

"All along. All this time," she said, her voice cracking. "A 15-year-old boy was found on our property. You have no idea how upsetting ..."

In town, students gathered for a morning mass at St. Joseph's High School. Principal Matt McCann said Wednesday was one of the toughest days of his career.

"I feel very numb," he said. "We knew when the police came to get the girls (Crisp's sisters who are students at the school) in the morning that that wasn't a good sign."

At about 12:30 p.m. officers contacted the school and confirmed McCann's worst fears. "We took about 20 minutes to figure out what we were going to say and then called everyone together," he said.


http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/532437

Es wird noch obduziert, jedoch ist Brandon vermutlich an "Hypothermia" gestorben, auf gut Deutsch: er ist erfroren.
Am Montag als er weg ist hatte es hier in der Gegend 25 Grad, Mittwochs und Donnerstags dann aber Schneefall bei um die Null.

Am Wochenende werden wir wohl mehr wissen.


Jan

hallo

etwas mehr infos - aber immer noch keine klarheit

quelle The Star

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Nov 07, 2008 07:09 PM
Robyn Doolittle
Staff Reporter

It was sunny and a balmy 26 degrees outside when Brandon Crisp fled his east-end Barrie home, wearing a T-shirt and jeans, around 3 p.m. Thanksgiving Monday.

But over the next three days the mercury plunged below zero, while throughout the week spotty showers passed through the region. The 15-year-old had also grabbed his jacket, a backpack, some deodorant and a toothbrush, but he had no cellphone or cash by all accounts, and no food or water.

Deer hunters discovered Crisp's body Wednesday morning in a wooded area east of Barrie, less than half a kilometre from an old farmhouse. An autopsy was conducted Friday, but a cause of death has not yet been determined. OPP officers don't suspect foul play. And for now, investigators are quietly speculating Crisp may have fallen victim to the elements, dying of hypothermia.

The teen was an avid fan of outdoor survival shows, said Sgt. Dave Goodbrand of the Barrie police. After Crisp disappeared, one theory was that he may have been camping out in the Oro-Medonte woods. By the end of the week, police were scouring the terrain by helicopter equipped with heat sensors, but by that point it might have been too late.

The problem with hypothermia, said Dr. Gordon Giesbrecht, a thermophysiologist based in Saskatoon, is that it can come on slowly.

"By the time you may realize you need help, it's too late," he said over the phone. "Other than the fact that you start to shiver, you feel cold, (maybe) you might experience pain and eventually numbness . . . there's no other sign that you're getting hypothermic."And once your core temperature starts to drop, you begin to lose brain function.

"You're becoming less and less aware of what's going on," said Giesbrecht.

One of the hunters who found Crisp told the Star the teen was not wearing his jacket. It was lying beside him.

This, said Giesbrecht, can be typical of hypothermic victims. In the end stages, before falling unconscious, some victims who have survived reported feeling a strong sense of warmth, he said. The brain isn't functioning properly, and people are known to remove clothing.

The body temperature can begin to drop in temperatures as warm as 10 degrees.

"Wetness just accentuates the problem of heat loss," Giesbrecht said. "So if it's raining and its 10 to 15 degrees and you're stuck outside, that is a significant heat stress."

moin,

heftig heftig....mir fehlen die Worte...habe eben den Beitrag von Jan gelesen.
Und das nur wegen einer Technologie die die Welt wollte.
Scheiße.....und diesen Ausdruck erlaube ich mir hier an dieser Stelle mal...
Mein Beileid an die Hinterbliebenden und vor allem an die Eltern.

Wenn ihr also glaubt...es gibt einen "zweiten" der ihm geholfen haben muß...wegen Zelt und so...dann kann ich mir gut vorstelen, dass dieser "zweite" einer sein muß der....wie sagt man.....Landstreicher...?....jedenfalls wird dieser keinen festen Wohnsitz haben und der Junge hat seine "Unterkunft" mit benutzt. Als der "zweite" seinen Tot am nächsten Morgen feststellte ist er geflohen.
Das kann ich mir so vorstellen...
Ich denke lieber nicht weiter..

hallo

bevor hier noch einige andere - die anscheinend nicht lesen - von einem "zweiten" quatschen

kurz gesagt: der junge war alleine und ist erfroren - soweit die derzeitigen angaben der polizei

...genau Maxim....ich hatte deinen eingetragenen Text auch nicht gelesen.
Sorry dafür....mein englisch ist nur zur hälfte...die andere Hälfte muß ich noch lernen.
Ach ja...und quatschen tun wir doch alle..oder?

hallo Kai-Uwe,

kein problem

ich quatsche einigen ja auch zu viel - viel zu viel : - )))))

zum übersetzen kann ich folgende webseite empfehlen - das programm ist auch sehr gut - best note bei c't, heise verlag

http://www.linguatec.net/

da kann man immer teile kostenfrei übersetzen lassen

PS - ich schätze, dass wir nicht vor montagabend - ca time - neues erfahren werden

hallo

gerade gefunden

der bub ist vom baum gefallen, und fremdverschulden wird ausgeschloßen

das steht nun in den zeitungen


Autopsy shows Brandon Crisp died from fall


TAMSYN BURGMANN

The Canadian Press

November 8, 2008 at 4:23 PM EST

TORONTO — Investigators say the Ontario teenager who ran away from home after being banned from playing a video game his parents said he was addicted to likely died after falling from a tree in the woods.

But it's still unclear how long 15-year-old Brandon Crisp survived outdoors in fall conditions wearing just a T-shirt before he perished.

Autopsy results on the body of the diminutive high school student, found more than three weeks after he went missing following a fight with his parents over what they called his obsession with the Xbox video game, show he died of injuries to the chest.

“(Provincial police are) still at the scene trying to piece together the hours leading up to his death,” Barrie police Sergeant Dave Goodbrand said Saturday after autopsy results were released by the chief coroner's office in Toronto.


Search ends in tragedy


The Globe and Mail

“We're assisting them in trying to build a timeline and determine exactly why he was where he was and what led to his death.”

Using dental records, the coroner confirmed the body found beside a [color=#0000FF]tree Wednesday by hunters was indeed Brandon's.[/color]

The boy's parents, who at one point feared their son might have been lured by other online gamers, were told of the findings Friday night.

They had spoken out about the grip video games had on their son during the search for him, and at one point acknowledged even they didn't realize just how much gaming meant to Brandon.

But they remained in seclusion over the weekend, asking for privacy as they dealt with the news that foul play had been ruled out in their son's death.